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bail-out idea, bail-out detroit versus what governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for michigan to make it more like a state like virginia. 23 other states that are right to work states. if they compete for work they got, and the idea might be better. it could be good for state of michigan, if painful for a few people for a while. >> eric: so many car companies say we like to do business in america. freddie addressing the fiscal cliff in detroit is going to mercury to address global warming. it's hot there. only obama could declare the auto bail-out a success. that is like hurricane sandy is a mess. the only successful expert is people. they are greating the hell out of there. going back to people like snyder, obama is happy to take the money from the rich. both won't take advice from people are rich. he doesn't want to learn how to fish. he just wants to take the fish. >> bob: detroit has been in trouble for a long time. right to work. here the unions collectively bargain, great rates. they allow scabs in there and take advantage of the money. >> eric: you just made the case fo
bail-out idea, bail-out detroit versus what governor rick snyder is doing, fundamental change for michigan to make it more like a state like virginia. 23 other states that are right to work states. if they compete for work they got, and the idea might be better. it could be good for state of michigan, if painful for a few people for a while. >> eric: so many car companies say we like to do business in america. freddie addressing the fiscal cliff in detroit is going to mercury to address...
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before i do so, please i'd like you to listen to what michigan governor rick snyder had the temerity to say on "morning joe." listen to this. oh. we appear to not have that. we seemed to suggest this morning that for some reason this was good for workers. how is right to work -- >> nothing could be further from the truth. basically what he has done is blind sided a lot of folks up there in michigan. and it's not good for workers in that workers will be able to benefit, they don't have to join a union. but now they'll be getting representation for better benefits and better wages. and not presenting any kind of dues to pay for that representation. and that's a deliberate effort, martin, to destroy unions. we see it here in the congress. i've seen it in my own committee. there has been a march by our republican colleagues to do everything in their power to destroy and weaken unions. and this is just another effort in that road. and i think people have to see this for what it is. you know, keep in mind that governor snyder said he was not going to get involved in this because he thought
before i do so, please i'd like you to listen to what michigan governor rick snyder had the temerity to say on "morning joe." listen to this. oh. we appear to not have that. we seemed to suggest this morning that for some reason this was good for workers. how is right to work -- >> nothing could be further from the truth. basically what he has done is blind sided a lot of folks up there in michigan. and it's not good for workers in that workers will be able to benefit, they...
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rick snyder is up for re-election in 2014 anyway. he already isn't that popular: michigan is generally a blue state to start with. so if you could take out rick snyder in 2014, again, the legislature as it will be comprised this coming year amenable with the democratic governor to undoing the law. >> you don't mean a recall. >> no, no. like in wisconsin, you know, a lot of people in the wake of that say how did scott walker win by so much? voters may not have liked what he did but they didn't like the idea of, you know, he's in the middle of the term. let him finish we elected him to. that's not an issue for snider in 2014. >> i think it should be pointed out that the unions in michigan stand to lose $100 million a year and you can't remove that from the discussion when you're talking about the stakes. the stakes are high. for both sides but i think steve has very smartly laid out the mechanisms by which people who object to these right to work laws can go about overturning them if they so choose. hopefully what doesn't happen is the
rick snyder is up for re-election in 2014 anyway. he already isn't that popular: michigan is generally a blue state to start with. so if you could take out rick snyder in 2014, again, the legislature as it will be comprised this coming year amenable with the democratic governor to undoing the law. >> you don't mean a recall. >> no, no. like in wisconsin, you know, a lot of people in the wake of that say how did scott walker win by so much? voters may not have liked what he did but...
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this happened when michigan's republican governor rick snyder steined two bills yesterday that essentially allow workers to have the freedom to join a union or not. it restricts unions from requiring people it to pay dues and join them in a company. one deals with private sector workers. the other deals with public employees. the angry opponents took to the streets in the days leading up to the votes. the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his handle if you want to get with the program is @pontfx. >>> get ready for another member of the bush
this happened when michigan's republican governor rick snyder steined two bills yesterday that essentially allow workers to have the freedom to join a union or not. it restricts unions from requiring people it to pay dues and join them in a company. one deals with private sector workers. the other deals with public employees. the angry opponents took to the streets in the days leading up to the votes. the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said...
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snyder has changed his position. he now supports right to work. what are you chances of stopping it? >> well, i don't think our chances of stopping it legislatively are particularly good. you know, it's a remarkable thing where we have a governor who campaigned as a moderate who has said for over two years that this issue is too divisive for michigan. now he's its biggest fan. either he was lying when he called it too divisive or he is by his own admission an extremist who's pushing an agenda that's too divisive and too extreme for our state. >> right now as i understand it the entire michigan federal delegation, house and senate, those folks are meeting with governor snyder. could that change anything? >> well, i have heard that they're meeting with him. we'll have to see what comes of that discussion. >> let me play devil's advocate here and just talk about the specifics of this. supporters say that this is going to help the state attract and keep businesses. they often point to auto suppliers, for example. are the
snyder has changed his position. he now supports right to work. what are you chances of stopping it? >> well, i don't think our chances of stopping it legislatively are particularly good. you know, it's a remarkable thing where we have a governor who campaigned as a moderate who has said for over two years that this issue is too divisive for michigan. now he's its biggest fan. either he was lying when he called it too divisive or he is by his own admission an extremist who's pushing an...
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this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen around 10:00 a.m., when the session will begin, be put to a vote, expected to get to the governor's desk as soon as tomorrow. dana? >> appreciate the update. dave, thank you so much. one sponsor of the legislation is michigan representative mike shirkey, insisting what is right to work is right for michigan. tell us in a nutshell, what are you trying to do? >> create an experiment in michigan where we have labor freedom, defined as where unions are free to make their case as workers are to make their choice, dana. >> so originally governor snyder when he started his term, this wasn't necessarily at
this controversy started when the governor, governor rick snyder, said for a bill comes across his desk, he will sign it. that prompted the house and senate to begin their legislation, bringing out protesters on thursday, all in opposition of this. actually shut down the capitol here due to overcapacity. eight people were arrested. they were charged for felonies for resisting arrest. that's just the scene police want to avoid when protesters show up tomorrow. again, this is expected to happen...
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we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and listen to them and hopefully get successful getting workers on board. jenna: many strong opinions about this. mike tobin in lansing, michigan with the latest. mike? >> reporter: a lot of sound, fury and big numbers are gone from the demonstrationsgan. if you look behind me the afl-cio with a silent protests. you see tape across their mouth. $1500 less that's what they believe on average workers will make here in michigan now that it has become a right-to-work state. this is sharp contrast what we saw yesterday, hundreds and hundreds of angry demonstrators on the capitol ground and capitol building its
we're following some major developments in michigan after governor rick snyder signed two bills into law making michigan the nation's 24th right it work state. now despite violent pro-union protests all day, governor snyder last night said these new laws will create more jobs. >> i don't view this as anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. this is an opportunity for unions to step up to say how they can provide the best value to workers in our state and be really responsive and...
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republican governor rick snyder had in the past said right to work was a divisive issue but plans on signing the legislation into law making michigan the 24th right to work state. we've got guests on both side of this fight tonight. bob king is president of the united autoworkers. scott hagerstrom is michigan state director for americans for prosperity. let me show you what the governor said earlier today when he was a guest on "andrea mitchell reports." >> the way i viewed it, it's on the table, it's a hot issue. let's show some leadership, so i stepped up to say when i review it, i think it's a good thing. it's about being pro-worker, giving freedom of choice to workers. secondly it's about economy development. we will get more and better jobs coming to michigan because we're going to be more competitive. it's important to make a distinction with wisconsin and ohio. that was about collective bargaining. that was about the relationship between employers and unions. this has nothing to do with that. right to work is about the relationship between the union and workers, and this is ab
republican governor rick snyder had in the past said right to work was a divisive issue but plans on signing the legislation into law making michigan the 24th right to work state. we've got guests on both side of this fight tonight. bob king is president of the united autoworkers. scott hagerstrom is michigan state director for americans for prosperity. let me show you what the governor said earlier today when he was a guest on "andrea mitchell reports." >> the way i viewed it,...
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republican governor rick snyder said he'll sign it as soon as it reaches his desk. when's the final vote xwpd? >> reporter: tomorrow around 10:00 a.m. here at the state house, the congress and senate will take up measures. the governor has already made clear he's ready to sign it. here's what he said last week. >> to be pro worker, to give freedom of choice to our workplace, and that legislators move promptly and efficiently moving it through the legislature. when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >> reporter: so he is expected to rubber stamp it, to sign it by tomorrow, ted. >> moving very quickly. alison kosik for us this morning in lansing, michigan. >>> investigators in mexico are looking into what brought down the plane that killed popular mexican-american singer jenni rivera. ♪ >> rivera and at least five others died when their plane crashed in northern mexico on sunday. she had just finished performing before boarding the plane. rivera, a mother of five, was recently named one of the 25 most powerful people by "people espanol." the 24-year-old gr
republican governor rick snyder said he'll sign it as soon as it reaches his desk. when's the final vote xwpd? >> reporter: tomorrow around 10:00 a.m. here at the state house, the congress and senate will take up measures. the governor has already made clear he's ready to sign it. here's what he said last week. >> to be pro worker, to give freedom of choice to our workplace, and that legislators move promptly and efficiently moving it through the legislature. when it arrives on my...
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. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the relationship between employers and unions at all. this is not about collective bargaining at all. this is not about other basics, about organizing at all. this is about the relationship between unions and workers. >> if enough workers opt out of the unions the union's bargaining power goes down it's weaker. that's what mr. obama is trying to it say. why is to the state's advantage very specifically. why is it to the state's advantage to have a right-to-work law to give workers the option of going into a union or not? >> well, they both go together. if you step back at your comment it is important to reco
. >> bill: but governor rick snyder says he will sign the right-to-work measure tomorrow. he joins us now from lansing, the state capitol. so what do you say to the president, governor, who says this you are basically trying to bring down wages for working people in michigan? >> that's not true at all. if you look at he made the comment about bargaining for wangs. about bringing down wages. this legislation is about freedom to choose for workers, bill. this isn't about the...
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the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue. people feel very strongly about it. so right to work is an issue that might have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate in michigan during 2012. >> how do you go from devicive and not appropriate to sure, i'll sign. just give me a pen? snyder has simply misled voters in michigan. this weekend, the detroit free press, a paper that endorsed snyder two years ago, read an editorial blasting his vote. calling him dishonest and grotesquely disingenuous. what's going on here? who's behind all of this? turns out it's some familiar faces. the coke brothers are up to their old tricks. these billionaires are helping to fuel the anti-union drive in michigan. the same way they did in wisconsin for governor scott walker. their goal now is the same as it was then. cripple unions in order to pad their corporate profits and take down a key source of support
the state's republican governor, rick snyder, says he'll sign the right to work bill into law. even though he opposed this kind of anti-union push earlier this year. >> right to work is an issue that's a very devicive issue. people feel very strongly about it. so right to work is an issue that might have its time and place but i don't believe it's appropriate in michigan during 2012. >> how do you go from devicive and not appropriate to sure, i'll sign. just give me a pen? snyder...
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this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington, everyone's eyes are on the calendar. this friday, the house of representatives is supposed to break for the holidays. christmas is exactly two weeks from today. so when are we going to get a deal on taxes and spending cuts? our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax rat
this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington,...
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governor rick snyder says he'll sign it. michigan will become the 24th u.s. right to work staid state. >>> and cnbc is taking to washington today as we send becky quick, larry kudlow and jim cramim cramer to the white . they'll be leading off with a special mission critical rise above d.c. report. it's part tax. read, becky? >> like you said, we are occupying washington. this is where we've camped out all night. there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is fact approaching. we know it is something that would threaten not only the united states economy, but the economies around the globe. if we go over that cliff, there will be steep cuts and spending and steep tax increases that would automatically kick in. what we're doing here today is talking to our elected officials, talking to people who are involved in these talks, trying to figure out what will happen, where we are and if there's any way to avoid that cliff, if there's a good way to come about with tax reform and a close look at what's been happening on the spending side, as well. w
governor rick snyder says he'll sign it. michigan will become the 24th u.s. right to work staid state. >>> and cnbc is taking to washington today as we send becky quick, larry kudlow and jim cramim cramer to the white . they'll be leading off with a special mission critical rise above d.c. report. it's part tax. read, becky? >> like you said, we are occupying washington. this is where we've camped out all night. there's been all this talk about the fiscal cliff. we know it is...
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governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't want the legislation is signing. we'll not stand for it >> over the weekend they continued to prepare members for staging demonstrations against did the measure. if the vote goes through, it will hurt organized labor but governor snyder said it is not about hurting unions but seeing it as proworker legislation. president obama will comment on this issue when he speaks to autoworkers about the fiscal cliff . this is fresh on the heels of his first private meeting with johnn boehner on the fiscal cliff subject. they met in the white house to discuss the differing plans and the communication lines between the two rema
governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't...
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the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, fraud on wall street. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six mo
the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is...
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protests are over a push by the governor of michigan, rick snyder to make michigan a right to work state. letting workers in michigan decide whether or not they want to join unions. so the capitol is scheduled to close in just about two and a half hours from now. so police say anyone who refuses to leave will be arrested and will be charged with trespa trespassing. >>> i want to talk about this, though. one of the biggest companies, the biggest companies without a doubt in the world moving jobs out of china. bringing them back to america. apple c eo tim cook with this announcement. >> so we've been working for years on doing more and more in the united states. next year, one of the existing mac lines in the united states. >> existing mac lines. dan simons, you cover things technology here. apple's been under pressure to move production back here, back to the u.s. why now? >> reporter: well, you know, they've been under pressure to do this for sometime. something to do with the human rights an i buss in the plants and here's an opportunity to give back, you know, something to the american
protests are over a push by the governor of michigan, rick snyder to make michigan a right to work state. letting workers in michigan decide whether or not they want to join unions. so the capitol is scheduled to close in just about two and a half hours from now. so police say anyone who refuses to leave will be arrested and will be charged with trespa trespassing. >>> i want to talk about this, though. one of the biggest companies, the biggest companies without a doubt in the world...
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the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through the u.s. to drug car tails and nations like iron. the sweatshirt is nice and all but i could use a golden lasso. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. >> she gets the comedians laughing... >> that's hilarious! >> ...and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there's wiggle-room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say anything. >> only on current tv. [♪ theme music ♪] >> ann
the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is...
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here is what michigan governor rick snyder had to say. >> it's all about being pro-worker. we have hard-working people in michigan it's been to give them the freedom to choose. they should be be able to choose whether to join a union or not. this is about the relationship between a union and workers. not about employers and unions. not about collective bargaining. this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't people have the opportunity to say they want to belong or not? >> michigan could soon be a right-to-work state. will others follow? joining us now is uaw member and spokesman for the michigan freedom-to-work coalition brian penebaker. you are a line worker right now, correct? >> that's right i'm assembly worker at the sterling axle plant in sterling heights. >> tell us what your reaction is to governor snyder's willingness, desire and push to make michigan a right-to-work state? >> well, what he said is exactly true. up until now, workers in michigan, if you hire in at a shop that has union representation, you were forced to become a member of the union. but
here is what michigan governor rick snyder had to say. >> it's all about being pro-worker. we have hard-working people in michigan it's been to give them the freedom to choose. they should be be able to choose whether to join a union or not. this is about the relationship between a union and workers. not about employers and unions. not about collective bargaining. this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't people have the opportunity to say they want to belong or not?...